<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Thanks to everyone who's donating and calling! </div><div><br></div><div>Tom, Kelly, and I were all at a No On 8 fundraiser down at the ferry building on Wednesday and I definitely got the feeling from Geoff Kors, Mark Leno, and the other folks that this sorta "snuck up" on us. Like we were ahead in the initial polls and all went back to focussing on the 10 million other critical issues this November.</div><div><br></div><div>Then both the public polls AND No On 8's *internal* polls started showing us falling behind and now everyone's scrambling to catch up. I think a lot of people just assumed that we had this in the bag and we don't. </div><div><br></div><div>Not yet anyway. </div><div><br></div><div>If you've got any friends or family outside the "dark blue" parts of California, think about giving them a call. A heartfelt message from someone they know and trust carries more weight than a phone-banker or TV ad. And it's (most likely) free. </div><div><br></div><div>: b</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.eqca.org">http://www.eqca.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.noonprop8.com/action/field-offices">http://www.noonprop8.com/action/field-offices</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:10 PM, <a href="mailto:social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com">social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Send Social mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:social@lists.deeptrouble.com">social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>social-owner@lists.deeptrouble.com<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Social digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: I just donated $50 to the No on 8 campaign (Manish Champsee)<br> 2. Re: I just donated $50 to the No on 8 campaign (mike kosim)<br> 3. friend looking for place to live in SF (Amy Tanner)<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Manish Champsee" <mchampsee@gmail.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">October 16, 2008 5:28:02 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Dave Snyder" <dave@livablecity.org><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Social mailing <social@deeptrouble.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: SOCIAL: I just donated $50 to the No on 8 campaign</b><br></span></div><br><br><div dir="ltr">This is sad, but shows what we are up against:<br><br><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/391/story/1308945.html">http://www.sacbee.com/391/story/1308945.html</a><br><br><p> Pam and Rick Patterson have always followed teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and tried to live within their means.</p><p>He drives a 10-year-old Honda Civic to his job at Intel. She is a stay-at home mom who makes most of the family meals and bakes her own bread. The couple, who have five sons between the ages of 3 and 12, live in a comfortable but modest three-bedroom home in Folsom.</p><p>It's a traditional lifestyle they believe is now at risk. That's why the Pattersons recently made a huge financial sacrifice – they withdrew <b>$50,000</b> from their savings and donated it to the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign, the ballot measure that seeks to ban same-sex marriage. </p><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Dave Snyder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@livablecity.org">dave@livablecity.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="">by using this link:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.eqcapac.org/" target="_blank">http://www.eqcapac.org/</a></div> <div><br></div><div>I don't even think marriage as a legal institution should exist at all, but the fundamentalist patriarchy is freaking me out. </div><div><br></div><div>I took action after reading this email:</div> <div><br></div><div><p align="left"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Dear David,</span></p><div><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></span><br></div><p><span>The latest tracking polls show that <b>if the election were held today among voters who have seen both our ads</b> and the other side's ads that <b>we would WIN!</b></span></p><p><span>Unfortunately, we don't have sufficient funds to get our ads seen by all the voters who've seen the other side's ads. So it's that simple…<a href="http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=etINI8PUJiKSIhI&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F" style="color: rgb(206, 0, 0);" target="_blank"><b>without more funds we'll lose</b></a>. </span></p><p><span>But we will win if we have enough money to reach voters. So<a href="http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=hmKTJhM6IlJZJrL&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F" target="_blank"><u><b style="color: rgb(206, 0, 0);">DONATE NOW!</b></u></a></span></p><p><span>A powerful array of motivated groups have organized against us. Yesterday's <i>Sacramento Bee</i> reported that:</span></p><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;"><p><span>"Mormons…have emerged as the leading financial contributors to the controversial Nov. 4 ballot measure. Church members have donated about 40 percent of the $22.8 million raised to pass the initiative since July."</span></p> </blockquote><p><span>What is also unfortunate is that only 30,000 people have donated to the No on 8 campaign compared to the 60,000 who have donated to the other side. </span></p><p><span>In a state with about two million LGBT people, in a country with millions more and tens of millions of straight allies, we have to get everyone to support this fight. If every LGBT person donates we can win!</span></p><p><span>Yesterday's <i>Sacramento Bee</i> also reported on the sacrifices being made by members of the Yes on 8 campaign:</span></p><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;"><p><span>"That's why Auburn resident David Nielson, 55, is giving…He and his wife, Susan, live on a budget. The couple donated $35,000, he said, "because some things are worth fighting for." The couple will forgo a vacation for the next two years and make other sacrifices to pay for their donation, he said."</span></p> </blockquote><p><span>So, what is your equality worth to you? What is your equality worth to your friends and family? How much will you sacrifice for your own freedom?</span></p><p><span>We are running out of time. We need your support now. We need the support of your friends and family now. <a href="http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=apIFKWNEKeIML7K&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F" style="color: rgb(206, 0, 0);" target="_blank"><b><u>DONATE NOW</u>!</b></a><span style="color: rgb(206, 0, 0);"><span><a href="http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=diJLK5OQIhLTJhJ&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F" target="_blank"><b>FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO ALL OF YOUR CONTACTS!</b></a></span></span></span></p><p><span><span style="color: rgb(206, 0, 0);"></span></span><span>In solidarity,</span></p><p align="left"><b><img alt="" border="0"><br>Geoff Kors<br></b><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Executive Director<br> Equality California</span></span></p></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> <br><br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">mike kosim <mike.kosim@mac.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">October 16, 2008 5:57:21 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Manish Champsee <mchampsee@gmail.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Social mailing <social@deeptrouble.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: SOCIAL: I just donated $50 to the No on 8 campaign</b><br></span></div><br><br>It's what happens when people believe that others must suffer so that they may prosper.<br>Mike<br><br>Manish Champsee wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">This is sad, but shows what we are up against:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://www.sacbee.com/391/story/1308945.html<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Pam and Rick Patterson have always followed teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and tried to live within their means.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">He drives a 10-year-old Honda Civic to his job at Intel. She is a stay-at home mom who makes most of the family meals and bakes her own bread. The couple, who have five sons between the ages of 3 and 12, live in a comfortable but modest three-bedroom home in Folsom.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It's a traditional lifestyle they believe is now at risk. That's why the Pattersons recently made a huge financial sacrifice – they withdrew *$50,000* from their savings and donated it to the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign, the ballot measure that seeks to ban same-sex marriage.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Dave Snyder <dave@livablecity.org <mailto:dave@livablecity.org>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> by using this link:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> http://www.eqcapac.org/<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I don't even think marriage as a legal institution should exist at<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> all, but the fundamentalist patriarchy is freaking me out. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I took action after reading this email:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Dear David,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> The latest tracking polls show that *if the election were held<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> today among voters who have seen both our ads* and the other<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> side's ads that *we would WIN!*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Unfortunately, we don't have sufficient funds to get our ads seen<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> by all the voters who've seen the other side's ads. So it's that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> simple…*without more funds we'll lose*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=etINI8PUJiKSIhI&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F>. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> But we will win if we have enough money to reach voters.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> So_*DONATE NOW!*_<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=hmKTJhM6IlJZJrL&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> A powerful array of motivated groups have organized against<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> us. Yesterday's /Sacramento Bee/ reported that:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> "Mormons…have emerged as the leading financial contributors to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> the controversial Nov. 4 ballot measure. Church members have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> donated about 40 percent of the $22.8 million raised to pass<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> the initiative since July."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> What is also unfortunate is that only 30,000 people have donated<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> to the No on 8 campaign compared to the 60,000 who have donated to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> the other side. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> In a state with about two million LGBT people, in a country with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> millions more and tens of millions of straight allies, we have to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> get everyone to support this fight. If every LGBT person donates<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> we can win!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Yesterday's /Sacramento Bee/ also reported on the sacrifices being<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> made by members of the Yes on 8 campaign:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> "That's why Auburn resident David Nielson, 55, is giving…He<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> and his wife, Susan, live on a budget. The couple donated<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> $35,000, he said, "because some things are worth fighting<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> for." The couple will forgo a vacation for the next two years<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> and make other sacrifices to pay for their donation, he said."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> So, what is your equality worth to you? What is your equality<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> worth to your friends and family? How much will you sacrifice for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> your own freedom?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> We are running out of time. We need your support now. We need<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> the support of your friends and family now. *_DONATE NOW_!*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=apIFKWNEKeIML7K&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F>*FORWARD<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> THIS EMAIL TO ALL OF YOUR CONTACTS!*<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=diJLK5OQIhLTJhJ&s=hwKVJhM6JlK2JkNULqF&m=jtIUI6OMJmJ7F><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> In solidarity,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> *<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Geoff Kors<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> *Executive Director<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Equality California<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> _______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Social mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Social@lists.deeptrouble.com <mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Social mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Amy Tanner <tanxiaoyue@hotmail.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">October 17, 2008 12:59:35 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><social@deeptrouble.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>SOCIAL: friend looking for place to live in SF</b><br></span></div><br><br><br>Hey Folks <br><br>A good friend of mine is looking for a place to live in SF. He's in his mid-30's, going back to school to become an MD, great sense of humor, very responsible and very easy going.<br><br>His name is Jan Liu and his email is janliu1@gmail.com.<br><br>If you want more info on him, how I know him, etc, don't hesitate to email me.<br><br>Thanks, amy (tanner)<br>_________________________________________________________________<br>Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how.<br>http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Social mailing list<br>Social@lists.deeptrouble.com<br>http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>