<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I thought Powell's point – that Obama is a Christian and has always been one, but so what if he was a Muslim – was right on; and going on to say that he wanted a 7-year old Muslim kid to think he could grow up to be president of the country some day, and the story about the American Muslim soldier who died fighting in Iraq, were pretty awesome. Democratic and Republican conventional wisdom has congealed around the idea that one must be a devout Christian to be president, so it was great to hear Powell remind us that even if it is currently so, it may not always be so.<div><br></div><div>As to the woman at the McCain Rally, she struggled a bit for the word, but eventually blurted out 'Arab'. McCain reassured her that she was wrong, and that Obama was actually a 'decent family man'. So many Americans think of Arab and Muslim as more-or-less interchangeable categories, but might be surprised to find out that millions of Arabs (and a majority of Arab Americans) are Christian (including Issa, Sununu <i>pere et fils,</i> and Abraham, but also Ralph Nader and Edward Said), and that of the top 8 countries by Muslim population, only one (Egypt) is predominantly Arab.</div><div><br><div><div><div>On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Manish Champsee wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">fair enough and a good point. I was somewhat amused at the woman at the townhall who said Obama was an Arab..Arab-Americans tend to lean Republican including the Sununu's, Spencer Abraham and apparently even the odious Darrell Issa.<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Amandeep Jawa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deep@deeptrouble.com">deep@deeptrouble.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style=""><div>It is not about endorsing Obama, it is about refuting this culture of hate and fear.</div><div><br></div>Obviously not all Republicans are heinous, but the silence at the very top of this party has been deafening. Here at last, is someone of national stature saying "and Muslims are evil? WTF?"<div> <br></div><div>'deep</div><div><br></div><div>..ps</div><div>Besides, most Americans don't know who Chuck Hagel is much less his wife. And I don't know who Gilchrist is, thus I'm not sure he exists.</div> <div class="Ih2E3d"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Manish Champsee wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">in fairness, there have been a number of "decent" Republicans already (assuming that we are equating "decent" with support Obama)....<br> <br>Chuck Hagel's wife has endorsed Obama (and Hagel himself hasn't endorsed either, but it would seem that his feelings are clear). Chris Buckley, Susan Eisenhower (i.e. Ike's grand-daughter), and Wayne Gilchrist have all endorsed Obama.<br> <br>Beyond that, there are a number of decent Republicans, even if I don't agree with them on many issues.<br><br>Manish<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Amandeep Jawa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deep@deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">deep@deeptrouble.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>& no, I haven't forgotten his speech at the U.N.<div><br></div><div>all of his statement is good, but a little after the 4:20 mark he starts into something that I really wanted to hear said....</div> <div><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265746#27265490" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265746#27265490</a></div><div><br></div><div><div> <span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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