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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I like the New-Dealiness of it – if we are heading into a
depression (eek!), then imagine the jobs that will come out of this –
assuming the funding is secured ahead of the economic decline (not likely).
Other than that, tho, I agree with Aaron on a lot of points. And then there’s
the carbon question. I haven’t seen a carbon analysis of the
project, but it’s very possible – as happened with BART –
that there could be more carbon emitted in the construction than the system
will ever save in its operations (over air travel).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And bear in mind: ridership projections are ALWAYS waaaaay
overblown, usually to justify the project costs. The riders on this
system prolly won’t even amount to half of the projected riders. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, I’m waiting until the land-use studies from the
Central Valley cities are in before I pass judgement. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Jennie D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#215868'>J</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#215868'>ennifer </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#215868'>D</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#215868'>ay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#215868'>Doctoral Candidate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#215868'>Department of City and Regional Planning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#215868'>University of California, Berkeley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#215868'>415 613 4969 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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social-bounces@lists.deeptrouble.com
[mailto:social-bounces@lists.deeptrouble.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Arons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Amandeep Jawa<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Social; partycar<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SOCIAL: [Party_Car] DETAILS: 'Deep Slate November 2008:
VOTE TUESDAY NOVEMBER 4TH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I do feel like I need to comment on (at least, and at this
point, no more than) one of these recommendations. <br>
High Speed Rail. I've had a lot of conversations down here with a
co-worker and vice-mayor of Menlo Park, and we're not so sure high speed rail
makes much sense in its current incarnation (beyond the sexiness of it).
It will be ridiculously expensive, and ultimately it does exactly what Deep
says, gives people a convenient way to get from here to LA and back. It
requires major rework of the infrastructure (grade separation all the way up
and down the peninsula), and integration of current use of the rail (Caltrain
and freight) with this new use. Do we need this long distance transit
solution for lots of money? Or would that money be much better spent for
regional transit planning that would allow us to get around the Bay Area more
easily? Would a better plan be to stop the train in SJ and then let it
connect to better local service, saving billions? A large part of the
cost will be in revamping the current rail line. Yes, I know that money
is not immediately transferable from project to project, but there is a massive
budget shortfall right now. And there are some real concerns about the
particular plan for this potential boondoggle. Anyway, I'm not
necessarily opposed to it, and we were actually hoping to have a debate on it
here at SRI, but it's worth looking into more carefully. Maybe this isn't
the right plan.<br>
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A few relevant links (some from people actually supporting the prop, but not
the current plan):<br>
<a
href="http://service.govdelivery.com/docs/CAMENLO/CAMENLO_1/CAMENLO_1_20080925_en.pdf">http://service.govdelivery.com/docs/CAMENLO/CAMENLO_1/CAMENLO_1_20080925_en.pdf</a><br>
<a href="http://www.transdef.org/HSR/HSR.html">http://www.transdef.org/HSR/HSR.html</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.bayrailalliance.org/statement_on_high_speed_rail_and_lawsuit_against_hsra">http://www.bayrailalliance.org/statement_on_high_speed_rail_and_lawsuit_against_hsra</a><br>
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And a debate on the issue on the radio Wednesday:<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><a href="http://www.kalw.org/listen.html">http://www.kalw.org/listen.html</a><br>
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KALW Radio, 91.7 FM, on Wednesday, Oct. 22, debating Quentin Kopp, the Chair of the CA High-Speed Rail <br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Authority. Please call in with questions and comments during the second half of the show. <br>
The number is 415-841-4134. <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>This much delayed bond measure will
start the funding for California to build a new High Speed Rail system
connecting SF to LA but eventually Sacramento to SF to LA to San Diego.
If I didn't love it because it was a great way to get people out of cars,
or love it because it would represent a hugh Green House Gas emissions win (it
will reduce instate plane flights DRAMATICALLY as well as reduce car trips), or
love it because it represents a big investment in CAs decaying infrastructure
& will dramatically improve service on our very own CalTrain, I'd vote for
it because it will get me to LA in 2 & a 1/2 hours door to door (4 by air?
8 by car?) & I'll probably be able to bring my bike :-) YES YES YES<o:p></o:p></p>
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