<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>i don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but Sprint and Verizon phones don't work overseas at all. not sure if that's a biggie for you... </div><div><br></div><div>i use a sonyericsson c905 and i love it... but it's really more of a digital camera that makes phone calls than vice versa. and it lets me do data tethering to my laptop which is essential since i'm still on-call all the time for work and do like the freedom of being able to leave my house :)</div><div><br></div><div>i use my 1st gen iphone as an ipod touch now and still love it. </div><div><br></div><div>: b</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:03 PM, <a href="mailto:social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com">social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Send Social mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:social@lists.deeptrouble.com">social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>social-request@lists.deeptrouble.com<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>social-owner@lists.deeptrouble.com<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Social digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. 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Re: the big question (beth byrne)<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Jennifer Day <jennieday@gmail.com><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">July 27, 2009 10:56:39 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: SOCIAL: the big question</b><br></span></div><br><br><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Has anyone weighed in yet on Credo? They run on the sprint network, and donate a portion of profits to non-profits and progressive lobbying. <div><br></div><div>jd<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 28/07/2009, at 3:53 PM, beth byrne wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">i have to weigh in on the sprint side. i have used them for 10+ years and have never had a problem with them. i think i have had 2 or 3 billing issues and they have fixed the immediately. i have a great plan and pay pretty much nothing for it. the only places i have had problems with coverage are the lost coast and montana (and no one i was with had service either). i even had great reception in my basement apartment.<br> <br>obviously since i have used sprint since the beginning of time i can't really say much about types of phones from other providers, but if you want my opinion on models, i would have to go with dan's suggestion...<br> <br>good luck and looking forward to playing with your iphone apps ;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adrian Cotter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drainage@gmail.com" target="_blank">drainage@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Sprint sucked in our mission apartment. Haven't entirely seen if at&t is any better yet<br><font color="#888888"> <br> Adrian</font><div><div></div><div><br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Geoff Davis <<a href="mailto:geoff@geoffdavis.net" target="_blank">geoff@geoffdavis.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Agreed, AT&T is not so great in the Haight, either. I had to get a land line so I can make calls from my apartment.<br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Greg Zhovreboff wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Yikes. What a thread!<br> <br> It's funny though because basically it sounds like AT&T v. Sprint. As for coverage - especially if you live in the Mission - AT&T f**king sucks. Like, a lot. I live at 14th & Guerrero and there is (literally) a 4' x 4' square patch in my living room from which I can make calls. And even there it's sketchy. I had an iPhone (3 of them) and miss them dearly but they're not insureable under AT&T's coverage so after breaking my 3rd one, I opted for the Crackberry Bold. DON'T GET A BOLD!!! It's quite possibly the shittiest smartphone ever. And that's coming from someone who owned a first generation Samsung Blackjack.<br> <br> My understanding was that - at least back in the day - T-Mobile simply leased AT&T's network. So it should be the same coverage. Has that changed? I believe CREDO is an mvno off the Spring network. That said, I've no idea about Sprint.<br> <br> Good luck (and don't get a Bold)!<br> <br> greg/viva<br> <br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:22 PM, palak joshi wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> yes i like iphone.<br> BUT<br> they should give us video and flash. i know they give it in 3gs but why not in my old iphone which i paid money for? hmph!<br> i dont like to text or reply to emails on iphone - my fingers hurt! its strange its a virtual keyboard and it should not hurt at all..becuase u are not supposed to press too hard! its a wierd kind of stress that you feel when u try to type!<br> i drop my iphone all the time - now they have nice covers for people like me. a rep once dropped a phone to show me how sturdy his cover is !!!<br> if it was slightly bigger it would not fit in my hand but its just the right size<br> attt did not drop my calls earlier so i would think its the iphone that does it. i am used to it now and so are other people :)<br> it has very good picture resolution<br> it has an inbuilt nice ipod<br> the map is very useful<br> i love the voice recorder and record all my music lessons and anyone who sings or says funny and nice things!<br> its a nice screen size<br> it lets you facebook easily if u are into it<br> <br> Its also a good looking piece of machine.<br> <br> <br> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Alexandra Longsworth <<a href="mailto:alongsworth@gmail.com" target="_blank">alongsworth@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> Hi Sunny,<br> <br> I have to weigh in for the iphone - I've never had coverage issues, and I'm really happy with the interface; I check email all the time, and it's seamless.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Alexandra Longsworth<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>“To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting.”<br> –E.E. 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They run on the sprint network, and donate a portion of profits to non-profits and progressive lobbying. <div> <br></div><div>jd<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 28/07/2009, at 3:53 PM, beth byrne wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">i have to weigh in on the sprint side. i have used them for 10+ years and have never had a problem with them. i think i have had 2 or 3 billing issues and they have fixed the immediately. i have a great plan and pay pretty much nothing for it. the only places i have had problems with coverage are the lost coast and montana (and no one i was with had service either). i even had great reception in my basement apartment.<br> <br>obviously since i have used sprint since the beginning of time i can't really say much about types of phones from other providers, but if you want my opinion on models, i would have to go with dan's suggestion...<br> <br>good luck and looking forward to playing with your iphone apps ;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adrian Cotter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drainage@gmail.com" target="_blank">drainage@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Sprint sucked in our mission apartment. Haven't entirely seen if at&t is any better yet<br> <font color="#888888"> <br> Adrian</font><div><div></div><div><br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Geoff Davis <<a href="mailto:geoff@geoffdavis.net" target="_blank">geoff@geoffdavis.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Agreed, AT&T is not so great in the Haight, either. I had to get a land line so I can make calls from my apartment.<br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Greg Zhovreboff wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Yikes. What a thread!<br> <br> It's funny though because basically it sounds like AT&T v. Sprint. As for coverage - especially if you live in the Mission - AT&T f**king sucks. Like, a lot. I live at 14th & Guerrero and there is (literally) a 4' x 4' square patch in my living room from which I can make calls. And even there it's sketchy. I had an iPhone (3 of them) and miss them dearly but they're not insureable under AT&T's coverage so after breaking my 3rd one, I opted for the Crackberry Bold. DON'T GET A BOLD!!! It's quite possibly the shittiest smartphone ever. And that's coming from someone who owned a first generation Samsung Blackjack.<br> <br> My understanding was that - at least back in the day - T-Mobile simply leased AT&T's network. So it should be the same coverage. Has that changed? I believe CREDO is an mvno off the Spring network. That said, I've no idea about Sprint.<br> <br> Good luck (and don't get a Bold)!<br> <br> greg/viva<br> <br> <br> On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:22 PM, palak joshi wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> yes i like iphone.<br> BUT<br> they should give us video and flash. i know they give it in 3gs but why not in my old iphone which i paid money for? hmph!<br> i dont like to text or reply to emails on iphone - my fingers hurt! its strange its a virtual keyboard and it should not hurt at all..becuase u are not supposed to press too hard! its a wierd kind of stress that you feel when u try to type!<br> i drop my iphone all the time - now they have nice covers for people like me. a rep once dropped a phone to show me how sturdy his cover is !!!<br> if it was slightly bigger it would not fit in my hand but its just the right size<br> attt did not drop my calls earlier so i would think its the iphone that does it. i am used to it now and so are other people :)<br> it has very good picture resolution<br> it has an inbuilt nice ipod<br> the map is very useful<br> i love the voice recorder and record all my music lessons and anyone who sings or says funny and nice things!<br> its a nice screen size<br> it lets you facebook easily if u are into it<br> <br> Its also a good looking piece of machine.<br> <br> <br> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Alexandra Longsworth <<a href="mailto:alongsworth@gmail.com" target="_blank">alongsworth@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> Hi Sunny,<br> <br> I have to weigh in for the iphone - I've never had coverage issues, and I'm really happy with the interface; I check email all the time, and it's seamless.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Alexandra Longsworth<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </blockquote> _______________________________________________<br> Social mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</a><br> <a href="http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com" target="_blank">http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>“To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting.”<br> –E.E. 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