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<DIV>So, Palak, I would just wait about a year, since the video conferencing feature won't be that useful until enough people have the new iPhone to make purchasing one for this feature worthwhile (by when it may also have 4G....), and hopefully the next evolution will allow video conferencing across across different smart phones (as with voice calls currently). And to your broader question, you could try looking at technology as art (especially when it comes to Apple), and like all art (loosely paraphrasing Oscar Wilde...), remember that it's not really anything you need, but the power of beauty is such that it can make us think we need it...</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Geoff Davis <geoff@geoffdavis.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Amandeep Jawa <deep@deeptrouble.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Ankur <ankurwow@yahoo.com>; "social@deeptrouble.comSocial" <social@deeptrouble.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, June 7, 2010 4:01:50 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: SOCIAL: I need an iphone<BR></FONT><BR>I think Amandeep's distaste for Android is colored by his employment. I like my Nexus One a lot more than my iPhone (2G). I'm a heavy Gmail user, and Android just works with my mail, my chats, my contacts, my calendar, etc. Google Voice is awesome, too - my voicemail gets transcribed and emailed to me, calls to my cell phone also ring my land line, and I can send and receive SMS messages on my computer. Everything's
in the cloud, so I don't have to manually sync anything except my music.<BR><BR>
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">I have lots and lots to say about these phones - and have spent lost of time thinking and working with them. I don't however have lots of time to write my thoughts today - but here is the snapshot version:
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<DIV>1) Susan - get an iPhone. Get the best iPhone you feel like spending the money on. I recommend the new one because it is sooo much better than the previous ones & the video calling alone is worth the price. Since you will be buying a plan the only question is $100 that big of an issue. If it is (understandably) get the older iphone 3GS - still an amazing phone & now the 2nd best phone on the market. </DIV>
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<DIV>2) On AT&T coverage and general shittyness. I fear it is true. AT&T is a real problem, and the only asterisk I put beside my recommendation of the iPhone. The choice then comes down to iPhone + AT&T drawbacks against Android + Verizon or Palm Pre + Verizon/Sprint. Given how annoying and fiddly Android still is I can't recommend it to anyone who is not a computer-hackery type (Do you like installing upgrades and update son your computer to get the latest and greatest functionality? Do you like fiddling with settings? If so you may well prefer Android.) Erin - If I was dead set against getting an iPhone for AT&T reasons, I'd get a Palm Pre - that is a nicer elegant phone with good UI for normal people. Now that HP bought Palm, it is not going anywhere.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is reason to believe the AT&T situation will start improving soon. But who knows whether that is true other than to pray. (Steve Jobs has been fielding questions about this and has stated this plainly - so I do tend to believe it)</DIV>
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<DIV>3) On the app front, none of the other phones has anywhere close to the kind of things you can do with this device as the iPhone - by far.</DIV>
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<DIV>4) At the end of the day, I'll bet money that you'll wish you had an iPhone given where these things are and where they are going. The big caveat comes down to AT&T coverage issues, and even with that I couldn't love my iPhone more, or be more unimpressed with Droid. Palm is pretty good.*</DIV>
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<DIV>* And note I don't say that because I work at Apple. It is the other way around.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Ankur wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I was anticipating a flood o' responses to this, and it's been surprisingly quiet... Susan--the new version is apparently 27% slimmer, and has a 5MB camera w/ flash (whereas the current has a substantially lower-resolution--although still pretty good--camera w/o flash).</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">If you primarily take pictures with your phone (or want to), then I'd go with the new version (which is supposed to be available this summer). Otherwise, I bet some folks on SOCIAL are going to upgrade to the new version, and may have already contacted you accordingly about selling you their current phone.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">More importantly, if you plan to talk on your phone a lot, I don't recommend the iPhone (or rather, AT&T's network, which is not nearly as good as Verizon in SF, and will noticably compromise the quality of your calls). The iPhone IS great for checking email and web browsing and has an incredible app library...</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Hope that helps--even a little!</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN> </SPAN>Susan King <<A href="mailto:funking@mindspring.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:funking@mindspring.com">funking@mindspring.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN> </SPAN>"<A href="mailto:social@deeptrouble.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:social@deeptrouble.com">social@deeptrouble.com</A><SPAN> </SPAN>Social" <<A href="mailto:social@deeptrouble.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:social@deeptrouble.com">social@deeptrouble.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN> </SPAN>Mon, June 7, 2010 12:20:33 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN> </SPAN>SOCIAL: I need an iphone<BR></FONT><BR>Last week, I finally decided to join the 21st century and plan to buy an iphone soon. So, there's a fancy new version out there that I am intrigued by,
though I suspect it is a lot more phone than I need. I thought I'd ask folks on this list about it (the good, bad, why the version introduced today is better than the previous ones) and also see if one of you is planning on upgrading and selling your current iphone for a decent price.<BR><BR>thanks in advance for the input.<BR><BR>peace,<BR>susan<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Social mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</A><BR>http://lists.deeptrouble.com/listinfo.cgi/social-deeptrouble.com<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>Social mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Social@lists.deeptrouble.com">Social@lists.deeptrouble.com</A><BR><A
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