SOCIAL: Help finding whether organization is solid or not

[Ankur]

The Landmark Forum was easily one of the most profound and therapeutic experiences of my life (9 years ago). For example, in 3.5 days, I witnessed people who'd been molested completely work through it and renew their relationships with their parent(s). That's unlike anything I'd seen or even thought possible before.

I did get turned off by how much they pushed their advanced courses (after I'd done the Forum), so I didn't do anything further with them, but they are definitely not a cult and can be very helpful to someone who's trying to get over something in their past, change a pattern of behavior, or find inspiration. (And they are a bargain compared to the price of therapy.)

The organization Elizabeth describes at the beginning of this thread is trying to sound like the Landmark Forum but isn't. (You should probably notify Landmark Education about them, Elizabeth.)

Just my 2 cents : ).

: ) Ankur : )

----- Original Message ----
From: Christon DeWan <cmdpix at mac.com>
To: Social Social <social at deeptrouble.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:20:33 AM
Subject: Re: SOCIAL: Help finding whether organization is solid or not

My sister was involved with the Landmark Forum for a bit after  
college. She said it was a very low point in her life, that it fairly  
destroyed her self confidence and self esteem and that it basically  
was a cult. Of course, this is just one second-hand opinion, but just  
beware.

~Christon

On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:13 AM, amymuller at gmail.com wrote:

> This actually sounds exactly like Landmark. We went to a free  
> seminar with a friend and it was basically just a very high pressure  
> sales pitch to sign up for the very expensive "Forum". At one point  
> during the evening I got up to go to the bathroom which happened to  
> be in the hallway that also led to the door to go outside. There was  
> actually someone "standing gaurd" in the hallway who stopped me  
> because they thought I was leaving. I was pretty creeped out. That  
> being said, I do know people who have gotten a lot out of Landmark  
> Forum. Just not my thing. Anyway, the wording on the poster and the  
> veil of obscurity on the web site all seem very reminiscent of it.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randall Isaac <randall at deadletter.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:04:45
> To: Social Social<social at deeptrouble.com>
> Subject: Re: SOCIAL: Help finding whether organization is solid or not
>
>
>    It does seem a little suspicious. It sounds a lot like all those  
> Get
> Rich in Real Estate courses (hah!) where they would offer a "free"
> seminar, that would really just be a high-pressure sales pitch for the
> paid seminar.  Some of the sources I Googled describe Kairos as an
> outgrowth of EST, similar to The Landmark Forum.
>
> Randall
>
> Elisabeth Lamoureux wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Could anyone guide me in finding out more about the Kairos Foundation
>> and its "More to Life" courses?
>> http://moretolife.org/
>>
>> Am acquaintance working for them as a volunteer has asked me to help
>> in distributing their posters in my neighborhood.  It's about a free
>> event: a seminar entitled "Learning to Move from Overwhelm to
>> Possibility."
>>
>> This sounds like some inspirational-talk seminar which, who knows,
>> might be interesting.  The thing that bugs me though is that the
>> poster also says that information will be available about an upcoming
>> course to be held in November in Oakland.  The web-site doesn't give
>> much concrete information about that course besides the fact that it
>> costs $495 for a 2 1/2 day seminar.
>>
>> My initial (and admittedly skeptical) sense tells me that this
>> organization is not very solid (no references to any books, reports,
>> articles, etc.), and that this initial event is only a recruiting
>> event for the expensive later seminar.  At the moment, I'm not
>> thrilled about distributing those posters...
>>
>> Thanks to any and all who can help!
>> --Elisabeth
>>
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