SOCIAL: Help finding whether organization is solid or not

Christon DeWan cmdpix at mac.com
Mon Oct 13 10:20:33 PDT 2008


My sister was involved with the Landmark Forum for a bit after  
college. She said it was a very low point in her life, that it fairly  
destroyed her self confidence and self esteem and that it basically  
was a cult. Of course, this is just one second-hand opinion, but just  
beware.

~Christon

On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:13 AM, amymuller at gmail.com wrote:

> This actually sounds exactly like Landmark. We went to a free  
> seminar with a friend and it was basically just a very high pressure  
> sales pitch to sign up for the very expensive "Forum". At one point  
> during the evening I got up to go to the bathroom which happened to  
> be in the hallway that also led to the door to go outside. There was  
> actually someone "standing gaurd" in the hallway who stopped me  
> because they thought I was leaving. I was pretty creeped out. That  
> being said, I do know people who have gotten a lot out of Landmark  
> Forum. Just not my thing. Anyway, the wording on the poster and the  
> veil of obscurity on the web site all seem very reminiscent of it.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randall Isaac <randall at deadletter.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:04:45
> To: Social Social<social at deeptrouble.com>
> Subject: Re: SOCIAL: Help finding whether organization is solid or not
>
>
>    It does seem a little suspicious. It sounds a lot like all those  
> Get
> Rich in Real Estate courses (hah!) where they would offer a "free"
> seminar, that would really just be a high-pressure sales pitch for the
> paid seminar.  Some of the sources I Googled describe Kairos as an
> outgrowth of EST, similar to The Landmark Forum.
>
> Randall
>
> Elisabeth Lamoureux wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Could anyone guide me in finding out more about the Kairos Foundation
>> and its "More to Life" courses?
>> http://moretolife.org/
>>
>> Am acquaintance working for them as a volunteer has asked me to help
>> in distributing their posters in my neighborhood.  It's about a free
>> event: a seminar entitled "Learning to Move from Overwhelm to
>> Possibility."
>>
>> This sounds like some inspirational-talk seminar which, who knows,
>> might be interesting.  The thing that bugs me though is that the
>> poster also says that information will be available about an upcoming
>> course to be held in November in Oakland.  The web-site doesn't give
>> much concrete information about that course besides the fact that it
>> costs $495 for a 2 1/2 day seminar.
>>
>> My initial (and admittedly skeptical) sense tells me that this
>> organization is not very solid (no references to any books, reports,
>> articles, etc.), and that this initial event is only a recruiting
>> event for the expensive later seminar.  At the moment, I'm not
>> thrilled about distributing those posters...
>>
>> Thanks to any and all who can help!
>> --Elisabeth
>>
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