SOCIAL: Fwd: [cdscommunity] Noe Valley studio apt available

Wed May 2 10:06:39 PDT 2012

Hey all,

I think this conversation is very telling of a major tension in this city
that most of us are uncomfortable discussing - the fact that basically only
rich people can live here.  I have seen this tension building as housing
advertisements on boards around the city are consistently defaced by people
who are outraged by the rent.

Even if it is all relative, I am upset by anyone reffering to this as
"cheap."  Someone earning minimum wage does not even bring in 1700 a
month.

I am also unclear on why saying the east bay is affordable is "denigrating"
unless us SFers are just that programmed by our 8 dollar heirloom coffee
beans to believe that something being reasonably priced makes it less
than.

I don't think we can blame the person renting this studio at what is sadly,
market value, for the greater issues here.  I know I am very concerned that
SF has the lowest percentage of children in any U.S. City and even though I
always thought I would fight like hell to raise my kids here, even if i can
swing it, I am not sure if I want them to only interact with children of
the rich.

Deep- I appreciate you trying to keep the peace in the bay divides, but I
couldn't keep my mouth shut.

Allegra

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Amandeep Jawa <deep at deeptrouble.com> wrote:

> Folks -
>
> This conversation is all noise. It sheds little light, and it us difgicult
> for SFers to respond without sounding like we're denigrating the East Bay.
>
> Yes. There are many upsides to leaving on either side of the Bay. There
> are challenges to both.
>
> 'deep
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, "Erin Milnes" <erin.milnes at comcast.net> wrote:
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>  I agree – East Bay all the way. If we rented out our Oakland 2 BR, 1 BA
> duplex with beautiful garden & deck, 10-min walk from Lake Merritt we’d
> maybe get $1700.****
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> I haven’t looked at SF rents in years, but when I left Bernal in 2005, the
> 3BR house I lived in wasn’t going for anything comparable to this (maybe
> $2100?), and of course it was much harder to find roommates then, than in
> the pre-millennial boom.  Have rents gone up this much all over SF, or is
> it just certain neighborhoods?****
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> Also, I didn’t know that it was legal to rent an apartment without a stove.
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> *From:* social-bounces at lists.deeptrouble.com [mailto:
> social-bounces at lists.deeptrouble.com] *On Behalf Of *Karen Nemsick
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:01 AM
> *To:* ellisafeinstein at yahoo.com; manish at champsee.com
> *Cc:* Social at lists.deeptrouble.com
> *Subject:* Re: SOCIAL: Fwd: [cdscommunity] Noe Valley studio apt available
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> We have a craftsman house in Berkeley with yard, creek and storage shed
> for $1925/mo. After 18 years in SF I just couldn't stomach the rents
> anymore.
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> *From: *Manish Champsee <manish at champsee.com>;
> *To: *Ellisa Feinstein <ellisafeinstein at yahoo.com>;
> *Cc: *Deep social <Social at lists.deeptrouble.com>;
> *Subject: *Re: SOCIAL: Fwd: [cdscommunity] Noe Valley studio apt
> available
> *Sent: *Wed, May 2, 2012 6:05:33 AM ****
>
> It's actually pretty cheap..if you know anyone looking, I'd tell them to
> jump on it.  A friend has a studio in India Basin that is pet friendly that
> he's asking $1400 and has people willing to write a check site unseen.
>
> Manish****
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> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Ellisa Feinstein <
> ellisafeinstein at yahoo.com> wrote:****
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> Wow. $1700 for a studio without a full kitchen. These rents are getting
> dang crazy!****
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> *From:* Amy Muller <amymuller at gmail.com>
> *To:* Social Social <social at deeptrouble.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:27 PM
> *Subject:* SOCIAL: Fwd: [cdscommunity] Noe Valley studio apt available****
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Susan Alexander* <salexandersf at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM
> Subject: [cdscommunity] Noe Valley studio apt available
> To: CDS listserv <cdscommunity at yahoogroups.com>
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> Hi,
> I'm looking for a new tenant for my sunny, spacious studio apartment with
> beautiful views on Hill Street.
>
> Large, cheerful studio apartment with deck and direct garden access. Full
> bath, carpet, two large walk-in closets. Minimal kitchen with half fridge,
> hot plate, and toaster oven. Great neighbors. Easy street parking and Muni
> access. Walking distance to Castro and to 24th Street.
> No pets. No smoking.
>
> Available July 1
> $1700/month plus utilities
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> Please share this with your networks. I would love to get some friend of
> friend in there, so I'll wait before I post on Craigslist.****
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